but it helps to know if they’re excited about me as their potential pastor. I also need to know why I am of real interest. The answer often surprises me. I interviewed with one congregation who confessed (after I asked) that they weren’t really interested, but the bishop had asked them to contact me, and they felt obliged to do so. Once I knew that, I was able to focus completely on their needs. In fact, we were able to talk in depth about their situation. As a result, they clarified some issues